tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1101438868458660054.post5946275783818098202..comments2024-03-04T06:54:50.622-06:00Comments on Reactive Champion: Medication Update: 4 weeksCrystal (Thompson) Barrerahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01738188430244886019noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1101438868458660054.post-3884998711916029482010-11-19T08:04:14.262-06:002010-11-19T08:04:14.262-06:00Katie, I'm glad it helped. And I can't wai...Katie, I'm glad it helped. And I can't wait to read more about your guys' class. It sounds like it is set up well.Crystal (Thompson) Barrerahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01738188430244886019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1101438868458660054.post-26493272948237923432010-11-19T07:03:27.967-06:002010-11-19T07:03:27.967-06:00Crystal, thank you, thank you, thank you! your res...Crystal, thank you, thank you, thank you! your response was more than generous, and very helpful!<br /><br />I will most likely post about the details of the class for Maizey when it is closer to time for her start. Right now it seems to meet many of these criteria, with the difference that the pods they use for the reactive dogs are in the same room, but completely private. And your dog doesn't even see the other dogs if that is preferred. The class is only 4 dogs at a time, which seems very good to me.<br /><br />Also about week three (of seven) they do bring in neutral dogs, but only after some progress has been made with the fake dog. I am jealous of your ongoing enrollment. That is an awesome idea. Most dogs will need more than 6-8 weeks of class to really start some new habits, so ongoing enrollment is great. Thank you again, this is awesome!Katie, Maizey and Magnushttp://www.lessonsfrom4legs.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1101438868458660054.post-79165024012465667212010-11-18T09:22:33.340-06:002010-11-18T09:22:33.340-06:00(CONTINUED)
Our current class is much more relaxe...(CONTINUED)<br /><br />Our current class is much more relaxed. We arrive at class, and everyone brings their dog in one at a time. We spend about five to ten minutes checking in and relaxing on mats or in crates. <br /><br />Then we do individual exercises- each dog gets up one at a time to do some heeling, work on perch or wobble board, go out and around a cone, practicing leave its, etc. It's really dependent on what the handlers want to do. Maisy and I sometimes do jumps. We used to do this in a box made up of ring gates, but now I'm in the more advanced class, so we don't use the box anymore. <br /><br />The working dog is basically playing "Give Me a Break" from CU- learning to focus and work with the handler despite distractions. The other dogs relax on their mat or in their crate, and play "Look at That" and get counter-conditioned to loud noises, dogs moving around, etc. <br /><br />Once every dog has had a chance to work (and that's usually about 3 minutes each, sometimes more sometimes less depending on how many dogs are in class), everybody relaxes on their mat again for a few minutes. We do this so the dogs learn to calm down after periods of high stimulation.<br /><br />After everyone's calm again, we do group exercises. Everyone gets up and moving again, sometimes heeling, sometimes interacting with an object, etc. This increases the amount of distraction that the dogs need to work through. Again, this is short- 3 to 5 minutes.<br /><br />Then we relax again. After everyone's calmed down again, we might do another exercise. Sometimes this is (individual) restrained recalls, sometimes it's sitting politely for greetings (from humans, not other dogs), sometimes it's parallel walking or doing "There's a Dog in your Face" (from CU)- it really just depends on how the dogs are doing. If a dog is super over the top, they might skip an exercise, or go in a back room or behind a barrier. The instructor is really good at reading the dogs and adjusting the exercises as needed. <br /><br />We end the class by relaxing again, and then everyone leaves the building one by one. <br /><br />I really like my current class. Enrollment is ongoing instead of being an every-8-weeks kind of thing. This is nice because there's no pressure to cover everything or move beyond where a dog is. Everything is adjusted for the dog, and you never feel like you're not progressing fast enough or that you can't participate because your dog didn't learn week 3's task or something. I don't think this is the norm, but I'm not sure.<br /><br />If I were looking for a new reactive dog class, I'd look for a positive reinforcement trainer, obviously. No corrections, no yelling allowed. I'd want one that uses barriers, and that adjusts the exercises for each dog. Bonus points for instructors who will listen to what you say and not push when you say you feel uncomfortable about a certain exercise. <br /><br />Let me know if you have any other questions. I'm sure I'm leaving stuff out. :)Crystal (Thompson) Barrerahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01738188430244886019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1101438868458660054.post-57311373299059339692010-11-18T09:22:08.104-06:002010-11-18T09:22:08.104-06:00Hey Katie, no problem with the slow responses at a...Hey Katie, no problem with the slow responses at all. Life gets busy sometimes! <br /><br />I have taken reactive dog classes at two locations, with three different instructors (I took two sessions with different instructors at one place, and for the last year have been somewhere else with a third instructor). I liked both classes- I just switched because the first place wasn't offering the class for awhile, and I still needed one. <br /><br />I don't remember exactly how many dogs were in the first set of classes. I think around six or eight. My current class typically has three to five. <br /><br />In both classes, a lot was done to ensure safety. This included crates (everyone brought one or borrowed one) and barriers- ring gates covered with blankets, for example. The barriers are good for when dogs are out of their crates working but need reduced visual stimuli. If a class doesn't have them available when needed, I wouldn't go. <br /><br />There was not interaction in either class. Neither class brought in neutral dogs. It's not a bad idea, but I think it's difficult to find a class that does, mostly because most instructors who teach reactive dog classes do it because they themselves have reactive dogs. Also, it can be taxing on the neutral dog to serve in that role over and over and over. Even if my dog was perfectly normal, I'd be careful about exposing her to barking lunging dogs on a regular basis. My one class does utilize large, realistic stuffed dogs as decoys, though. <br /><br />As for skills, the two classes have been very different. The first class followed the Control Unleashed book pretty closely. Have you read that? It's a curriculum book, more or less, and suggests what to do each week. <br /><br />(TO BE CONTINUED!)Crystal (Thompson) Barrerahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01738188430244886019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1101438868458660054.post-6264487470807869502010-11-17T22:21:33.391-06:002010-11-17T22:21:33.391-06:00Hi Crystal, sorry for the slow response. I am sort...Hi Crystal, sorry for the slow response. I am sort of overwhelmed in the reactive area this week and have been doing lots of reading, and not so much responding.<br /><br />Before I put Maizey in this class I would like to know what those who have reactive classes find valuable about them. Specifically in the structure of the class. How many dogs? What measures are taken to make safe space for your pup? Does she interact with other reactive dogs, or are there neutral dogs brought in for the exercises? What skills do you cover? <br /><br />Obviously I have more questions than answers, and if it is too complicated I am happy to follow links. I am already working through many of the links on your and others links page. But would love some specifics on classes. I really appreciate all the insight your blog and the blogs of your readers have given me.Katie, Maizey and Magnushttp://www.lessonsfrom4legs.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1101438868458660054.post-25884014730169392672010-11-15T09:18:12.432-06:002010-11-15T09:18:12.432-06:00Hi, Anne!
Yes, Maisy is a corgi-poodle mix, and I...Hi, Anne!<br /><br />Yes, Maisy is a corgi-poodle mix, and I think she has more corgi traits than poodle ones. She definitely has some herding instincts, so I think you're probably right that some of her issues are breed-related. <br /><br />That said, they are extreme and interfere with her daily life and ability to function (you know, like sleeping!). Thankfully, there is so much available to us between classes and medication (not to mention books and the internet!).Crystal (Thompson) Barrerahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01738188430244886019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1101438868458660054.post-68958537387118532332010-11-15T09:03:18.898-06:002010-11-15T09:03:18.898-06:00Sounds like Maizey is making great progress! You s...Sounds like Maizey is making great progress! You said you think she is part Corgi? From what I've seen in herding breeds in various training situations, and as the owner of an Australian Cattle Dog, I'd say some of the traits such as vigilance and reactivity are breed traits...sounds like Maizey has an exaggerated case of these traits(?) It is so cool that there are classes now for reactive dogs. Twenty years ago, I had a Malamute who was reactive to the 10th power, and it was scary to take him out in public. Thanks for sharing all of this great information!Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07183956117323893803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1101438868458660054.post-59638918587186103222010-11-14T20:44:09.627-06:002010-11-14T20:44:09.627-06:00Hey Crystal,
Thanks so much for keeping these log...Hey Crystal, <br />Thanks so much for keeping these logs, so helpful and informative for those of us with reactive dogs.<br /><br />Katie, <br />I have posted on my blog about the format of my Control Unleashed Class. This class is taught by Alexa and Leslie McDevitt. I am going to post a 10 minute clip from our class on my blog, sometime this week. <br />Kirby (wwww.dognerd101.blogspot.com)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1101438868458660054.post-55168979127820246922010-11-12T08:27:11.496-06:002010-11-12T08:27:11.496-06:00Hi, Katie! I don't think I've written abou...Hi, Katie! I don't think I've written about our reactive dog class here on the blog. Maybe I can do that soon. In the meantime... what would you like to know? <br /><br />I think the thing I like best about my current class is that the instructor is very respectful of Maisy and I. If I say no to participating in an exercise, she never pushes it, although she will let me know if she thinks I'm being overprotective.Crystal (Thompson) Barrerahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01738188430244886019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1101438868458660054.post-84711031815869522722010-11-11T21:44:51.260-06:002010-11-11T21:44:51.260-06:00It sounds like a good walk! I'm glad you had t...It sounds like a good walk! I'm glad you had that nice time together. <br /><br />I hope the meds continue to help Maisy. I know that meds can work better or worse with changing body chemistry so I think the records you are keeping are very vital. I really appreciate how you recognized that her not settling down could be due to your stimulating walk. That kind of insight is very important with our reactive pups. It will be interesting to figure all these averages over time when compared with outside stimuli. You are doing such an amazing job, not only for your Maisy but for all of us to learn from you!<br /><br />I am really interested in your reactive dog class. I may have found a reactive class for Maizey so I would like to read more about the structure of your class and what you found beneficial. Can you point me to some posts?Katie, Maizey and Magnushttp://www.lessonsfrom4legs.comnoreply@blogger.com